நாடு தற்பொழுது உள்ள சூழ்நிலையில் மூன்றாம் தலைமுறை பட்டதாரிகளுக்கு இடஒதுக்கீடு மிக அவசியமா!!!????

[Endorphin]

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Reservation is a system of allocating seats in educational institutions and government jobs to certain groups of people, typically those who have been historically disadvantaged. In India, the reservation system is based on caste, with the aim of providing opportunities to members of lower castes.

However, there is an argument that reservation should not be given to wealthy forward class people. This is because the purpose of reservation is to address historical discrimination and disadvantage. Wealthy forward class people have not faced the same level of discrimination as other groups, and therefore do not need the same level of assistance.

Here are some of the reasons why this argument is valid:

• Wealthy forward class people are less likely to be in need of the benefits that reservation provides. They are more likely to have access to good education and employment opportunities, and they are less likely to face discrimination.

For example, a wealthy forward class person may be able to afford to send their child to a private school, which would give them a better education than a public school. They may also be able to afford to hire a tutor or coach to help their child prepare for exams.

• Giving reservation to wealthy forward class people can take away opportunities from those who are more in need. This is because there are a limited number of seats available, and giving them to those who do not need them means that someone who does need them may miss out.

For example, a poor student from a lower caste may not be able to afford to go to college if they do not get a reservation seat. This means that they may miss out on the opportunity to get a good education and a good job.

• Giving reservation to wealthy forward class people can be seen as unfair. It can be seen as a reward for privilege, rather than a way to address disadvantage.

For example, a wealthy forward class person may have inherited their wealth from their parents. They may not have worked hard for their money, and they may not have faced any discrimination. In this case, it is not fair for them to get a reservation seat over someone who is less wealthy and has faced discrimination.

Of course, there are also arguments against this view. Some people argue that reservation should be available to all, regardless of income or caste. They argue that everyone should have the opportunity to succeed, regardless of their background.


They believe that reservation is a way to level the playing field and give everyone a fair chance. They also argue that reservation is necessary to address the historical discrimination that has been faced by certain groups of people.

Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to give reservation to wealthy forward class people is a complex one. There are valid arguments on both sides of the issue. It is important to weigh all of the factors involved before making a decision.

In addition to the points I have already mentioned, here are some other factors to consider:

• The level of discrimination that different groups of people face.
• The availability of other programs and initiatives to help disadvantaged groups.
• The impact of reservation on the quality of education and employment opportunities.
• The public opinion on the issue of reservation.

It is important to have a nuanced discussion about this issue and to consider all of the factors involved. There is no easy answer, and the best solution may vary depending on the specific circumstances.

so what do you think about current scenario??does reservation still should be granted to those who have amassed wealth through previous generation reservation ??? plz show your valuable insights!!!

 

[Nilaa]

நாம வேடிக்கை பாக்கலாம் வழக்கம் போல

 

[Endorphin]

நாம வேடிக்கை பாக்கலாம் வழக்கம் போல

koluthi potutu vedikkai paarkalaame

 

[Nilaa]

Historical discrimination is a history...

Present situation la this reservation quota needless I think.

Creamy layer system okiee...

Thread owner ன் விருப்பத்திற்காக
கொளுத்தி போட்டுட்டேன்....

All the best

Will come again with fire service..

 

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இரண்டாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கும் மேலாக ஒதுக்கி வைக்கப்பட்ட, பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட மற்றும் தாழ்த்தப்பட்ட மக்களுக்கு இட ஒதுக்கீடு அவசியமானதொன்றாகும்.

 

[Meen]

Oru problem oda root cause ah address panama bandaid solution thaan intha reservation. Western countries la 20 year plan 50 year plan nu podraanga to address the root causes, aana inga 5 year plan ke pothumaana research ila. Ipo irukra problem ah solve panni makkal ah santhosha paduthi vote vaangrathu thaan strategy ah iruku. Ithu reservation system la matum ila, floods, corruption, land encroachment, education system, elaathalyum ithe thaan.

Focusing on reservation system, it does not fix the issue because ithu not fair to students of forward caste, true they have an advantage here because of the easy accessiblity to education but athu balance pana backward caste people ah uplift panrathuku measures edukanum like free schools or additional coaching etc. Atha vitiu marks cut off yen koraikanum? That is not fair. It should be same cut off for all and seats should be allocated based on the marks. Avanga street light la kashta pattu padichaaanga na athukaaga kammi mark edutha pogum nu sola koodathu, avangaluku nalla padika environment kudunga athaane solution?

Ippidiye panni, there are many FC students who will drop their education or just move out the country. Oru nalla padikara student FC or BC inga padika mudiyama abroad la poi perusa achieve panraa apo athu brain drain thaane? Apidi aana aprom ena panuvaanga? Reservation system apidiye maathi FC students ku quota irukra maari panuvaangala?
Intha maari fast solutions elaam easy research eh thevai ila, and you can easily punt the effort to the next party which will come into power in next 5years. Long term solutions yosikanum oru sustainable and resilient system ah create pananum apo thaan . This is tough, but that is the right solution.

 

[Endorphin]

Historical discrimination is a history...

Present situation la this reservation quota needless I think.

Creamy layer system okiee...

Thread owner ன் விருப்பத்திற்காக
கொளுத்தி போட்டுட்டேன்....

All the best

Will come again with fire service..

EWS reservation also not needed ah!?

 

[Endorphin]

Oru problem oda root cause ah address panama bandaid solution thaan intha reservation. Western countries la 20 year plan 50 year plan nu podraanga to address the root causes, aana inga 5 year plan ke pothumaana research ila. Ipo irukra problem ah solve panni makkal ah santhosha paduthi vote vaangrathu thaan strategy ah iruku. Ithu reservation system la matum ila, floods, corruption, land encroachment, education system, elaathalyum ithe thaan.

Focusing on reservation system, it does not fix the issue because ithu not fair to students of forward caste, true they have an advantage here because of the easy accessiblity to education but athu balance pana backward caste people ah uplift panrathuku measures edukanum like free schools or additional coaching etc. Atha vitiu marks cut off yen koraikanum? That is not fair. It should be same cut off for all and seats should be allocated based on the marks. Avanga street light la kashta pattu padichaaanga na athukaaga kammi mark edutha pogum nu sola koodathu, avangaluku nalla padika environment kudunga athaane solution?

Ippidiye panni, there are many FC students who will drop their education or just move out the country. Oru nalla padikara student FC or BC inga padika mudiyama abroad la poi perusa achieve panraa apo athu brain drain thaane? Apidi aana aprom ena panuvaanga? Reservation system apidiye maathi FC students ku quota irukra maari panuvaangala?
Intha maari fast solutions elaam easy research eh thevai ila, and you can easily punt the effort to the next party which will come into power in next 5years. Long term solutions yosikanum oru sustainable and resilient system ah create pananum apo thaan . This is tough, but that is the right solution.

Forward caste Kum thaan EWS quota 10% irukke!??

 

[Endorphin]

Oru problem oda root cause ah address panama bandaid solution thaan intha reservation. Western countries la 20 year plan 50 year plan nu podraanga to address the root causes, aana inga 5 year plan ke pothumaana research ila. Ipo irukra problem ah solve panni makkal ah santhosha paduthi vote vaangrathu thaan strategy ah iruku. Ithu reservation system la matum ila, floods, corruption, land encroachment, education system, elaathalyum ithe thaan.

Focusing on reservation system, it does not fix the issue because ithu not fair to students of forward caste, true they have an advantage here because of the easy accessiblity to education but athu balance pana backward caste people ah uplift panrathuku measures edukanum like free schools or additional coaching etc. Atha vitiu marks cut off yen koraikanum? That is not fair. It should be same cut off for all and seats should be allocated based on the marks. Avanga street light la kashta pattu padichaaanga na athukaaga kammi mark edutha pogum nu sola koodathu, avangaluku nalla padika environment kudunga athaane solution?

Ippidiye panni, there are many FC students who will drop their education or just move out the country. Oru nalla padikara student FC or BC inga padika mudiyama abroad la poi perusa achieve panraa apo athu brain drain thaane? Apidi aana aprom ena panuvaanga? Reservation system apidiye maathi FC students ku quota irukra maari panuvaangala?
Intha maari fast solutions elaam easy research eh thevai ila, and you can easily punt the effort to the next party which will come into power in next 5years. Long term solutions yosikanum oru sustainable and resilient system ah create pananum apo thaan . This is tough, but that is the right solution.

Avanga street light la kashta pattu padichaaanga na athukaaga kammi mark edutha pogum nu sola koodathu, avangaluku nalla padika environment kudunga athaane solution?
Accepted FC cutt off Kum SC/ST cutt off Kum just 5 marks thaan difference when I was studying! Intha 5 marks difference aye thaangikka mudiyaadha samoogam Avan nalla Padikka mattum vitruvaangala!?
Reservation higher studies la irukka koodathunu nenaikireengala Ila both studies jobs layum irukka koodathunu nenaikreengala!? If you are against it can you temme why you are against it!?

 

[Meen]

இரண்டாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கும் மேலாக ஒதுக்கி வைக்கப்பட்ட, பிற்படுத்தப்பட்ட மற்றும் தாழ்த்தப்பட்ட மக்களுக்கு இட ஒதுக்கீடு அவசியமானதொன்றாகும்.

Athuku solution ini vara oru 1000 varushathuku micham irukra munuku vara nenaikra makkal ah thaalthi thaan ivangala mela vara koduvaranuma.

"Dont worry my son, Oruthar ah konnu oruthara kaapatha maatom"

 

[Meen]

Intha 5 marks difference aye thaangikka mudiyaadha samoogam Avan nalla Padikka mattum vitruvaangala!?

1 mark difference naalum athu yethuku? yen difference. Women were repressed in society, athukaaga 33 la irunthu 50% ketaale ethuka matraanga, ivalo naal repressed ah thaaltha patu irunthome, athukaaga engaluku 80% venum nu sona? or 51% venum nu sona? is it fair for men?

Difference eh iruka koodathu, apidi thaan soli tharanum. Reservation system naala innum caste ah highlight pani kaatra maari thaane iruku.
Indpendence apove Gandhi harijan harijan nu solli solli oru caste ah pirivanai ah konduvanthaanga.
Caste system olikanum na reservation ah olikanum first.

 

[Endorphin]

1 mark difference naalum athu yethuku? yen difference. Women were repressed in society, athukaaga 33 la irunthu 50% ketaale ethuka matraanga, ivalo naal repressed ah thaaltha patu irunthome, athukaaga engaluku 80% venum nu sona? or 51% venum nu sona? is it fair for men?

Difference eh iruka koodathu, apidi thaan soli tharanum. Reservation system naala innum caste ah highlight pani kaatra maari thaane iruku.
Indpendence apove Gandhi harijan harijan nu solli solli oru caste ah pirivanai ah konduvanthaanga.
Caste system olikanum na reservation ah olikanum first.

Reservation olicha caste system kandipa olichuralaama!?

 

[Meen]

Reservation higher studies la irukka koodathunu nenaikireengala Ila both studies jobs layum irukka koodathunu nenaikreengala!? If you are against it can you temme why you are against it!?

I beleive in equality. Rerservation naala athu varaathu. So I am against it everywhere. Nee keel jaathi nu solravan matim racist ila, keel jaathi nu brand pani help kekravanum, help panravanume racist thaan. According to me, rende types thaa ppl who need help and people who dont, athuku caste certificate thevai pada koodathu

 

[Meen]

Reservation olicha caste system kandipa olichuralaama!?

No, not at all. but reservation irukra varai caste discrimination oliyaathu. Caste certificate eh iruka koodathu.

 

[Meen]

Namma independence oda main objective enna?
People in the city were enjoying british administration, avalo luxury, trade and infratrcuture transport elaame flourish aachu. The only reason to throw all that away, was because there were people everywhere else who were being discriminated. Equality ila, avanga administration eh was based on discrimination. Ipo yosichu paatha Freedom ku munadai iruntha dsicrimination apidye iruku infact increase ayiruku in different forms.

 

[RajNi]

Rightu dho varen saptu..

 

[RajNi]

Historical discrimination is a history...

do u think there is no discrimination in schools, colleges and workplace nowadays?

Present situation la this reservation quota needless I think.

Why do u think like that?

 

[Agnii]

I beleive in equality. Rerservation naala athu varaathu. So I am against it everywhere. Nee keel jaathi nu solravan matim racist ila, keel jaathi nu brand pani help kekravanum, help panravanume racist thaan. According to me, rende types thaa ppl who need help and people who dont, athuku caste certificate thevai pada koodathu

I differ. Reservation exist for a good reason. Adhu mattum illaina, thalaivar soldra madiri dhan rich get richer and poor get poorer madri dhan Namma naatula nilai irukkum.

Ippo kooda paarunga, scheduled caste quota ve, only the richest among scheduled castes are enjoying. Castism Namma dna la ye deep-rooted ah irukku... Adhu innum konjam decades ku irukka dhan seiyyum... Oru 100 years munnala avloo theeviramaa adhai follow pannanga...

Ennoda masters pandrappo, en college la oru Tribe la irundhu paiyyan vandhirundhaan... Reservation illaina, avangalaam karpanai kooda panni paarka mudiyaadhu... They can never fare equally well in competitive exams like that... Ippo andha paiyyana example ah vechu neraiyya perukku oru awareness vandhirukkum... Avangalukku irukka opportunities pathi theriyum

So I support reservation and i strongly support more stringent measures like Creamy layer in scheduled castes... And more % for the tribes...

 

[Meen]

I differ. Reservation exist for a good reason. Adhu mattum illaina, thalaivar soldra madiri dhan rich get richer and poor get poorer madri dhan Namma naatula nilai irukkum.

Ippo kooda paarunga, scheduled caste quota ve, only the richest among scheduled castes are enjoying. Castism Namma dna la ye deep-rooted ah irukku... Adhu innum konjam decades ku irukka dhan seiyyum... Oru 100 years munnala avloo theeviramaa adhai follow pannanga...

Ennoda masters pandrappo, en college la oru Tribe la irundhu paiyyan vandhirundhaan... Reservation illaina, avangalaam karpanai kooda panni paarka mudiyaadhu... They can never fare equally well in competitive exams like that... Ippo andha paiyyana example ah vechu neraiyya perukku oru awareness vandhirukkum... Avangalukku irukka opportunities pathi theriyum

So I support reservation and i strongly support more stringent measures like Creamy layer in scheduled castes... And more % for the tribes...

This is not equality.

 

[Nilaa]

do u think there is no discrimination in schools, colleges and workplace nowadays?

What is the reason for discrimination? Any community labels ? எப்படி கண்டுபிடிக்க முடியும் இவங்க இந்த இனம் அப்டினு